Leaving the Message

  • Autism Journey Fighting For Our Son's Education
    by Leaving the Message on July 25, 2026 at 10:30 pm

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  • From the Scopes Trial to Latter Rain: Following the Historical Trail
    by Leaving the Message on July 25, 2026 at 7:00 pm

    John Collins and John McKinnon discuss a historical article that led them to reexamine Roy Davis's timeline and explore broader connections involving William Jennings Bryan, Gerald Winrod, Caleb Ridley, William D. Upshaw, and other figures. They examine how political, religious, and social movements intersected during the early twentieth century and why those relationships deserve closer historical study. The conversation also considers the Scopes Trial, the growth of fundamentalist activism, the development of organizations connected to the period, and questions surrounding Kansas, California, Indianapolis, and other locations mentioned in historical records. Throughout the discussion, the focus remains on examining historical sources and following documented connections to better understand the wider context surrounding Roy Davis. 00:00 Defenders of the Christian Faith and the 1943 Article 02:16 The Four Names That Changed the Investigation 03:58 Expanding the Historical Timeline Beyond Roy Davis 05:20 Gerald Winrod and Early Movement Connections 06:44 The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and Its Influence 07:48 Churches as a Means of Spreading Ideas ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

  • Bad Theology in Music A Songwriter's Confession
    by Leaving the Message on July 25, 2026 at 5:00 pm

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  • Spiritual Grooming: How Control Hides in Faith | Podcast Episode 664
    by Leaving the Message on July 25, 2026 at 3:00 pm

    John and Christian discuss spiritual grooming, how it can appear inside religious communities, and why people may not recognize it while it is happening. They examine the difference between pastoral care and spiritual control, including dependency, secrecy, isolation, information control, and the use of spiritual language to influence people. The conversation also explores examples from church culture in Latin America, Costa Rica, and the United States, including financial pressure, filtered teaching, cover-up culture, and questions people can ask to evaluate whether a community is healthy or controlling. 00:00 Introduction 01:33 What Is Spiritual Grooming? 08:12 How Grooming Manipulates Trust and Identity 13:36 Pastoral Care vs. Spiritual Control 18:42 Isolation, Dependency, and Replacing the Conscience 25:47 Music, Teaching, and Information Control 36:31 Using Personal Information to Manipulate 41:21 Spiritual Grooming in Costa Rica 45:18 Cover-Up Culture and Financial Grooming 49:44 Questions to Identify Spiritual Grooming 54:37 Final Thoughts 55:06 Closing ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

  • Branhamism's Polygamy Doctrine Son's Remarriage Explained
    by Leaving the Message on July 24, 2026 at 10:30 pm

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  • From British Israelism to Modern Ideology: Following the Trail
    by Leaving the Message on July 24, 2026 at 7:00 pm

    John Collins and John McKinnon discuss the historical timeline of Davis and his role within a broader movement, examining how various ideas, books, and historical influences intersected over time. The conversation explores the spread of ideology, the influence of British Israel-related concepts, and the importance of understanding historical context when evaluating the development of later movements. The discussion also examines groupthink, critical thinking, and the role that ideological movements can play in shaping both religious and political perspectives. By looking at historical examples and their perceived outcomes, the conversation encourages viewers to examine ideas carefully, evaluate their sources, and consider the long-term effects of belief systems. 00:00 Introduction 00:41 Books and the Spread of Ideology 01:39 Religion, Politics, and National Identity 03:10 Why Critical Thinking Matters 05:04 Groupthink in Churches and Politics 07:17 Bringing Historical Influences Into the Open ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

  • Bible Fire Judgment vs Holy Spirit Explained
    by Leaving the Message on July 24, 2026 at 5:00 pm

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  • Inside World Harvest Church And The Word Of Faith Machine | Podcast Episode 663
    by Leaving the Message on July 24, 2026 at 12:30 pm

    John and Ken examine the overlap between Word of Faith teaching, prosperity preaching, healing lines, “honoring the prophet,” and high-pressure giving culture through Ken Barriger’s experience around World Harvest Church in Paducah, Kentucky. The discussion traces connections involving Amway-style motivation, The Way International, Ed and Nancy Dufresne, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, grave soaking, slain-in-the-spirit experiences, and the broader charismatic ecosystem. The conversation also explores how religious language can prepare people to give beyond their means, how miracle claims can become difficult to question, and why independent verification matters when evaluating spiritual leaders. Ken’s story offers a personal look at the tension between sincere faith, group pressure, healing expectations, and the need for discernment. Chapters 00:00 Introduction 02:18 Amway, Motivation, And A First Cult-Like Experience 06:18 Returning To Kentucky And Joining Grace Church International 09:41 Ed Dufresne, World Harvest Church, And Father-In-The-Faith Language 12:20 Amway, Prosperity Thinking, And Money-Making Schemes 18:10 Ed Dufresne’s Death And Leadership Changes 22:23 Grave Soaking, Relics, And Spiritual Power Claims 32:44 Slain In The Spirit And Learning To “Respond” 36:00 Giving Pressure And “All The Money You Make Is Not Your Money” 39:27 Honoring The Prophet And Offering Psychology 42:07 False Teachers, Scripture, And Spiritual Abuse Patterns 45:07 Healing Lines, Miracles, And Unanswered Questions 48:21 Leg-Lengthening Claims And Miracle Verification 51:41 Advice For People Questioning Word Of Faith Churches ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

  • Brian Simmons The Passion Translation's Controversial Message
    by Leaving the Message on July 23, 2026 at 10:30 pm

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  • Understanding the Historical Roots of Christian Identity
    by Leaving the Message on July 23, 2026 at 7:00 pm

    John Collins and John McKinnon discuss why understanding history is essential for making sense of present-day religious and political movements. Rather than approaching the subject as conspiracy, they explain why they believe historical documentation, factual research, and the development of ideas over time provide a better framework for understanding how these movements evolved. The discussion explores the concept of cross-pollination between communities, how ideas spread through shared circles and relationships, and why historical context matters when examining religious ideologies. They also introduce their upcoming discussion on the relationship between the British Israel movement, Christian Identity, and the historical framework they believe influenced William Brandham's message. 00:00 Introduction 00:47 History Instead of Conspiracy 02:05 Historical Ideas and Political Movements 03:26 Understanding Modern Religious Movements 03:56 Cross-Pollination of Ideas 04:52 Branham Pilgrimages and Shared Communities 06:02 Community Connections and Idea Development 07:36 British Israel and Christian Identity ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

  • Branhamism's Mind Bending Beliefs Faith or Trickery
    by Leaving the Message on July 23, 2026 at 5:00 pm

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  • When Numbers Become Revelation | Bob Scott | Podcast Episode 662
    by Leaving the Message on July 23, 2026 at 12:30 pm

    John and Bob discuss the strange world of numerology and dream interpretation inside the Latter Rain, Kansas City Fellowship, IHOPKC, and New Apostolic Reformation streams. Bob shares firsthand memories from the 1980s, including the culture shock of watching dreams, dates, numbers, and symbols become part of everyday spiritual language. John connects those experiences to older religious currents, including British Israelism, Christian Identity, spiritualism, pyramid speculation, zodiac symbolism, Christian fundamentalism, and the Latter Rain belief that God was restoring apostles, prophets, and an end-time army. The conversation explores how ordinary numbers can become hidden codes, how coincidences can be treated as revelation, how symbolic dream interpretation can separate people from reality, and how Joel’s Army theology created repeated cycles of excitement, disappointment, disillusionment, and spiritual harm. This episode is not an attack on the biblical idea that God can speak through dreams. Instead, it asks what happens when dreams, symbols, numbers, and prophetic interpretation become a system of authority. 00:00 Introduction 01:44 Bob’s Unresolved Question About Numerology 03:03 Bob Jones Introduces Numerology and Dream Interpretation 05:00 Bob’s Prophetic Dream About Mike Bickle 09:44 Tracing the Historical Roots of Numerology 11:39 British Israelism, Christian Identity, and the Great Pyramid 14:08 Pagan Religions and Sacred Numbers 17:04 Gnosticism and the Corruption of Christianity 18:39 Numbers in Scripture and Kabbalah 20:19 Humanity’s Desire to Predict the Future 22:38 Fundamentalism, Spiritualism, and Archaeology 25:09 Numbers as Ancient Symbols of Importance 29:05 Biblical Numbers Versus Occult Numerology 31:08 Secret Knowledge and Spiritual Elites 33:08 Mysticism and William Branham’s Use of Numbers 34:43 Turning Coincidences Into Revelation 35:47 Dick Iverson and Dream Interpretation 38:25 The Damage of Constant Dream Interpretation 40:17 Symbolism, Escapism, and Avoiding Reality 44:27 Connecting Dream Interpretation to Latter Rain 45:41 Parham, John G. Lake, and Portland 46:59 Dreams, Visions, and the Latter Rain Movement 49:08 Paul Cain’s Search for a New Generation 51:37 Building an End-Time Army 53:55 The Disillusionment of Joel’s Army 55:41 IHOP as a Repetition of Kansas City Fellowship 58:19 Why History Keeps Repeating 59:54 Conclusion ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

  • British Israelism The Pyramid Scheme Behind Jerusalem
    by Leaving the Message on July 22, 2026 at 10:30 pm

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  • Why Prophetic Movements Need an Echo Chamber
    by Leaving the Message on July 22, 2026 at 7:00 pm

    John examines how a middle tier of ministers and prophetic figures can distribute, reinforce, and legitimize the claims of more prominent leaders. He argues that these individuals serve as connective tissue between revival gatherings, apostolic networks, and local churches, helping unusual teachings appear widely confirmed rather than isolated. The discussion also considers why this relationship may involve more than simple guilt by association. John focuses on the difficulty of evaluating forgotten prophecies, the use of vague biblical identities, conditional language that provides an escape from failure, and the importance of testing prophetic claims against what actually occurred. 00:00 Training an Audience to Stop Thinking Critically 02:08 Minor Prophets as Distributors of the Major Message 03:19 Connecting Revivals, Networks, and Local Churches 04:01 Is This Only Guilt by Association? 05:01 The Problem of Missing Prophetic Records 06:38 How the Middle Tier Gives Leaders Credibility ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

  • Christian Music Reform vs Charismatic Debate
    by Leaving the Message on July 22, 2026 at 5:00 pm

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