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We were taught that the Bible was the inspired, authoritative Word of God, but were we actually taught how to read and interpret it? In this episode, we examine what happens when pastors and believers bring private revelation, “rhema words,” personal experience, eisegesis, out-of-context teaching, and subjective impressions into Scripture, instead of allowing the text to speak for itself. We’ll play the preachers in their own words, open the passages they use, and ask one recurring question: Is that really how we should be reading and interpreting Scripture? And if you were taught these same habits in church, Sunday School, Bible studies, or your own devotional life, we hope this episode helps you begin testing everything by God’s Word for yourself. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. - 2 Timothy 2:15 ESV

We were taught that the Bible was the inspired, authoritative Word of God, but were we actually taught how to read and interpret it? In this episode, we examine what happens when pastors and believers bring private revelation, “rhema words,” personal experience, eisegesis, out-of-context teaching, and subjective impressions into Scripture, instead of allowing the text to speak for itself. We’ll play the preachers in their own words, open the passages they use, and ask one recurring question: Is that really how we should be reading and interpreting Scripture? And if you were taught these same habits in church, Sunday School, Bible studies, or your own devotional life, we hope this episode helps you begin testing everything by God’s Word for yourself. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. - 2 Timothy 2:15 ESV

We were taught that the Bible was the inspired, authoritative Word of God, but were we actually taught how to read and interpret it? In this episode, we examine what happens when pastors and believers bring private revelation, “rhema words,” personal experience, eisegesis, out-of-context teaching, and subjective impressions into Scripture, instead of allowing the text to speak for itself. We’ll play the preachers in their own words, open the passages they use, and ask one recurring question: Is that really how we should be reading and interpreting Scripture? And if you were taught these same habits in church, Sunday School, Bible studies, or your own devotional life, we hope this episode helps you begin testing everything by God’s Word for yourself. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. - 2 Timothy 2:15 ESV

What happens when a preacher takes a preferred style of prayer and turns it into a biblical standard for everybody else? In this LIVE special, we watch Nathan Holmes’ sermon “No Quiet Prayers” in sequence, pausing along the way to examine Hebrews 5, Acts 2, Hannah’s prayer, and the other passages used to connect fervency with volume, tears, exertion, miracles, and the moving of the Holy Spirit. Loud prayer can absolutely be biblical, but Scripture never makes loudness the test of sincere or effective prayer. Biblical prayer is not about generating enough intensity to break through to God; because of Christ, believers are already invited to draw near with confidence. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. - Matthew 6:6 ESV Last Week: Did God Really Show You That? | How Pentecostal Preachers Twist Scripture – EP145 - https://youtu.be/8LzztiErdK8 Show Links: EP120 - Prayer Pressure: How Pentecostals Distort Communion…and How It’s Restored - https://youtu.be/UFibnhcgNzA Nathan Holmes - “No Quiet Prayers” - https://www.youtube.com/live/KNjcFArIjqk?si=rSiRhSQsC2Wgeiji&t=2815 Joel Holmes - “prayer log” - https://www.youtube.com/live/5Nqq2fZ6Xvs?si=FE8sHr8SfNvHI144&t=4425 Todd Nichols - “What’s In Your Spirit?” - https://www.youtube.com/live/uWGKek-REsk?t=0&is=3-P0RMlP7vKB0OuO Playlists: Grace Escape - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9ERikAYlc4GW3U04LgI0uW Holiness Standards - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9mstgSEcS7VDrX2J4PHmzl The Church Building - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-xWOOZI8ygTa2bjHotSzfh Examining Pentecostalism - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-wcgovpsEwfpV02tWpwXAZ The “MOG” (Man of God) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-AZ-6O6CQ3auiF-jddjuQa All About The Money - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f_vExBRUMQRIxqgbFexAMQv Abuse In The Pulpit - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9EyN7gNkHFxr19loK8MthL Addressing NAYC 2025 Comments - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f8j9Oqo1ut5FKw65XnV0RFj FEAR!!! FEAR!!! FEAR!!! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-ZvNiV12NPd5SbGkXsl2Sp Music’s “Play” In It All - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f_RRvftpRPuaKNylmC2G1J_ Grace, Grace, God’s Grace - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9Ps0QA2Mx21Pz-B6VNlvSw Resources: B.I.T.E. Model ⁠Website: https://bit.ly / B.I.T.E. Model ⁠Free PDF⁠: https://bit.ly/BITE-PDFBook: Toxic Faith - https://amzn.to/3LsRreN Book: The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse - https://amzn.to/3UUFKA Books: Pagan Christianity? Exploring the Roots of Our Church Practices:⁠ https://amzn.to/3UR5IEt Book: Free: From Legalism to Grace - https://amzn.to/4kkrYnA Responsible Faith - https://www.youtube.com/@ResponsibleFaith Spiritualabuse.org dividetheword.blog Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational and commentary purposes, offering biblical critique and theological analysis based on personal opinion and publicly available material, without alleging illegal activity or defaming individuals or organizations. Portions of copyrighted content may be used under Fair Use (17 U.S.C. § 107) for criticism and education, and rights holders are encouraged to contact us with any concerns. #Pentecostal #UPCI #Apostolic #NathanHolmes #PentecostalPrayer #BibleTwisting #SpiritualAbuse #GraceEscapePodcast

We were taught that the Bible was the inspired, authoritative Word of God, but were we actually taught how to read and interpret it? In this episode, we examine what happens when pastors and believers bring private revelation, “rhema words,” personal experience, eisegesis, out-of-context teaching, and subjective impressions into Scripture, instead of allowing the text to speak for itself. We’ll play the preachers in their own words, open the passages they use, and ask one recurring question: Is that really how we should be reading and interpreting Scripture? And if you were taught these same habits in church, Sunday School, Bible studies, or your own devotional life, we hope this episode helps you begin testing everything by God’s Word for yourself. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. - 2 Timothy 2:15 ESV Last Week: When Pastoral Authority Goes Too Far | Todd Nichols at The Rock Church – LIVE SPECIAL - https://youtube.com/live/nMkHH7P7KHo Show Links: Gentry Mangun - “Gentry-ology” - https://www.youtube.com/live/QOWak_GjqgE?si=UgSVYEXS7Fcp2h13&t=1726 Todd Nichols - “only 2 men matter” - https://youtu.be/pJKLpZxMR6w?si=5ASaW83tUJCrRzSB&t=1593 Pentecostal Herald - Oct 1959 - “The Authority of The Pulpit” - https://www.scribd.com/document/500577798/pentecostalherald-1957-10 Edwin Martinez - “I got a word from God” - https://www.youtube.com/live/2URq_VCgBzE?si=pDbJUuTU5KMIY2H0&t=2201 Josh Herring - “I got a revelation” - https://youtu.be/_x-9yTes2KY?si=QVoSykVdDkKeeuOr&t=1707 Raymond Woodward - “your pastor knows more” - https://youtu.be/aOI21TI7Zz4?si=41qpeQPDSGgy3ShM&t=2896 Nathan Holmes - “your Berean ideas” - https://www.youtube.com/live/-cOLjOWJn9I?si=IbmbzzKbjItdpUEq&t=4092 Jack Leaman - “hungry for the voice of God” - https://youtu.be/pzU6N3wwBvw?si=XBTf1YV7ngtI4ich&t=1304 Raymond Woodward - “logos v. rhema” - https://youtu.be/jm4N4ywqkAs?si=8s8RBoZ3X_ERGaKf&t=578 Nathan Holmes - “never preached before” - https://www.youtube.com/live/sHbSHOR8P00?si=x_RGC-F0r8IymR4W&t=3671 Wesley Jackson - “leggings above your skirt” - https://www.youtube.com/live/eZ-jGKQi17w?si=scekAKnRIVXAm2Mk&t=6019 Taylor Fish - “Jericho Wall Fall” - https://youtu.be/TteFCpXG_Tk?si=gs6i91aRrsqA7npB&t=2651 Cornelius Williams - “The David Dance” - https://www.youtube.com/live/fgt510EbCbE?si=vuI6h03jhukHJ1D7&t=7147 David K Bernard - “Forsaken Assembling“ - https://youtu.be/JT-wn9BMieo?si=BWjsXorw-KZUNc37&t=184 Revival Tabernacle Offering Taker - “Malachi Robbing” - https://www.youtube.com/live/HP119RY87cM?si=v-Hvmj2a-Pj8zVuE&t=486 Honest Youth Pastor - Sermon Review PDF - https://thehonestyouthpastor.com/products/sermon-notes-v2 Caleb Adams - “possessor of heaven & earth” - https://youtu.be/Jeax8MnOjM8?si=2OEjTkjzw8dcj_cN&t=1321 Matthew Tuttle - “Romans 8 groanings = tongues” - https://youtu.be/vzKROISib3w?si=EVvGCfF94KQd9n0n&t=2596 Dillon Morgan - “tried to craft a sermon” - https://www.youtube.com/live/z64xIohWV_I?si=DH-b-SakGM0kk7uJ&t=3592 Justin Pointdexter - “I’ll cut YOUR prayers off” - https://www.youtube.com/live/yzOIxANweoo?si=adMh0D8vn-bYALUc&t=6183 Chad Erickson - “the Bible + your own interpretation” - https://www.youtube.com/live/XzgjaMapbx4?si=_sr1MjyL2Rm_P4Nu&t=3188 Robert Tisdale - “turn off your reason” - https://www.youtube.com/live/JbwhRKvCw2I?si=2TYNv6JpOWS6qr3u&t=3676 Josh Herring - “prayer life messed up” - https://www.youtube.com/live/-QGaGMKh1o8?si=kYM-t73PyJZtofUQ&t=162 Playlists: Grace Escape - Full Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9ERikAYlc4GW3U04LgI0uW Holiness Standards - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9mstgSEcS7VDrX2J4PHmzl The Church Building - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-xWOOZI8ygTa2bjHotSzfh Examining Pentecostalism - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-wcgovpsEwfpV02tWpwXAZ The “MOG” (Man of God) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-AZ-6O6CQ3auiF-jddjuQa All About The Money - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f_vExBRUMQRIxqgbFexAMQv Abuse In The Pulpit - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9EyN7gNkHFxr19loK8MthL Addressing NAYC Comments - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f8j9Oqo1ut5FKw65XnV0RFj FEAR!!! FEAR!!! FEAR!!! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-ZvNiV12NPd5SbGkXsl2Sp Music’s “Play” In It All - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f_RRvftpRPuaKNylmC2G1J_ Grace, Grace, God’s Grace - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9Ps0QA2Mx21Pz-B6VNlvSw Resources: DivideTheWord.blog - Responsible Faith - https://www.youtube.com/@ResponsibleFaith Spiritualabuse.org - http://SpiritualAbuse.org Connect with us: 💻 http://graceescapepod.com📱Leave a message or text us! (484) 424-7223 ⁠⁠📨 Send us an email! hello@graceescapepod.com https://twitter.com/graceescapepod https://www.instagram.com/graceescapepod

In this special LIVE edition, we had you join us as we worked through a stack of clips we collected from Oneness Pentecostal camp meetings and conferences over the summer. Some are funny, some are strange, and others raise much more serious questions about doctrine, pastoral authority, healing, the Holy Spirit, and what people are being told God requires. Rather than dismissing something just because it sounds unusual, we open Scripture and ask whether what was preached actually lines up with the Word. And as always, our goal isn’t to tell you what to think, it’s to encourage you to test everything for yourself. Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. - 2 Timothy 4:2 ESV

In this special LIVE edition, we had you join us as we worked through a stack of clips we collected from Oneness Pentecostal camp meetings and conferences over the summer. Some are funny, some are strange, and others raise much more serious questions about doctrine, pastoral authority, healing, the Holy Spirit, and what people are being told God requires. Rather than dismissing something just because it sounds unusual, we open Scripture and ask whether what was preached actually lines up with the Word. And as always, our goal isn’t to tell you what to think, it’s to encourage you to test everything for yourself. Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. - 2 Timothy 4:2 ESV

Todd Nichols preached two messages at The Rock Church in Elk Grove, that reveal a troubling view of pastoral authority: from turning Nehemiah’s enemies into a template for modern opposition to warning believers about getting a taste of “preacher blood.” In this LIVE special, we examine Nichols’ claims that only select leaders matter when it comes to hearing from God, that his only answer when his bishop speaks is “yes, sir,” and that this isn’t “cultish” but “apostolic alignment.” We also look at his use of Romans 13’s “sword,” his dismissal of “church hurt,” the striking contradiction over who owes whom an explanation, and similar warnings about criticizing pastoral leadership previously preached at The Rock Church. Rather than simply reacting to the rhetoric, we open Scripture and ask the question at the heart of this episode: What does the New Testament actually teach about the authority, and the limits, of pastors and spiritual leaders? Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood. - Acts 20:28 ESV

Mother’s Day 2026, we’re having a complicated conversation on Grace Escape: the role and culture surrounding the modern “First Lady.” In many Pentecostal churches, these pastor wives carry enormous pressure, influence, responsibility, and emotional weight behind the scenes, often while quietly suffering themselves. But we also take an honest look at the very real spiritual, emotional, and relational damage that can happen through manipulation, guilt, soft control, and celebrity-style church culture. From luxury gifts and leadership hierarchy, to loneliness, burnout, and impossible expectations, we’re looking at a role that can deeply affect both church members and the women living inside it. Our hope is to bring clarity, validation, compassion, and ultimately freedom to anyone who has been hurt by unhealthy religious systems. But whoever would be great among you must be your servant, and whoever would be first among you must be slave of all. - Mark 10:43-44 ESV

In Oneness Pentecostalism, the church building is often treated as far more than a place to gather. It becomes the “House of God,” the place where God supposedly moves, restores, pours out His Spirit, calls people, and meets with His people in a special way. In this episode, we look at the language, clips, and Scripture surrounding sacred church buildings, altar dependence, “don’t miss the move” fear, and the idea that some churches are special epicenters of revival. Incidentally, the New Testament tells a very different story: God does not dwell in buildings made by human hands; He dwells in His people. So today we’re asking one simple question: what if God never left you? What kind of house will you build for me, says the Lord, or what is the place of my rest? Did not my hand make all these things?’ - Acts 7:49-50 ESV

In Oneness Pentecostalism, the church building is often treated as far more than a place to gather. It becomes the “House of God,” the place where God supposedly moves, restores, pours out His Spirit, calls people, and meets with His people in a special way. In this episode, we look at the language, clips, and Scripture surrounding sacred church buildings, altar dependence, “don’t miss the move” fear, and the idea that some churches are special epicenters of revival. Incidentally, the New Testament tells a very different story: God does not dwell in buildings made by human hands; He dwells in His people. So today we’re asking one simple question: what if God never left you? What kind of house will you build for me, says the Lord, or what is the place of my rest? Did not my hand make all these things?’ - Acts 7:49-50 ESV

Todd Nichols preached two messages at The Rock Church in Elk Grove, that reveal a troubling view of pastoral authority: from turning Nehemiah’s enemies into a template for modern opposition to warning believers about getting a taste of “preacher blood.” In this LIVE special, we examine Nichols’ claims that only select leaders matter when it comes to hearing from God, that his only answer when his bishop speaks is “yes, sir,” and that this isn’t “cultish” but “apostolic alignment.” We also look at his use of Romans 13’s “sword,” his dismissal of “church hurt,” the striking contradiction over who owes whom an explanation, and similar warnings about criticizing pastoral leadership previously preached at The Rock Church. Rather than simply reacting to the rhetoric, we open Scripture and ask the question at the heart of this episode: What does the New Testament actually teach about the authority, and the limits, of pastors and spiritual leaders? Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood. - Acts 20:28 ESV Last Episode: Did They Really "Preach" That?! | Pentecostal Camp Meetings 2026 – LIVE SPECIAL https://youtu.be/E0Jl-WuGRtc Show Links: Todd Nichols - TRC Sunday AM - “Stay On The Wall” - https://youtu.be/pJKLpZxMR6w?is=XW6SO3FAaLWtJoC7 (Backup) Todd Nichols - TRC Tuesday - “What’s In Your Spirit” - https://youtu.be/lUqAM7k43Vs?is=9gBNKrL4UdyTkI5p Matthew Tuttle - “church hurt denied” - https://youtu.be/Xfk-TNG32kw?t=2942&is=ay9AaLYRVmM_1uD4 Mary Wilson - Birthday Celebration - https://youtu.be/UKYYZTIDW9c?is=_7P7BuOsmFm5wtp1 (Backup) Mary Wilson Clip - “I’ll sic the devil on you” - https://youtu.be/szny2cd79GM?is=lZDMGywDdlLEcexk Playlists: Grace Escape - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9ERikAYlc4GW3U04LgI0uW Holiness Standards - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9mstgSEcS7VDrX2J4PHmzl The Church Building - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-xWOOZI8ygTa2bjHotSzfh Examining Pentecostalism - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-wcgovpsEwfpV02tWpwXAZ The “MOG” (Man of God) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-AZ-6O6CQ3auiF-jddjuQa All About The Money - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f_vExBRUMQRIxqgbFexAMQv Abuse In The Pulpit - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9EyN7gNkHFxr19loK8MthL Addressing NAYC 2025 Comments - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f8j9Oqo1ut5FKw65XnV0RFj FEAR!!! FEAR!!! FEAR!!! - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f-ZvNiV12NPd5SbGkXsl2Sp Music’s “Play” In It All - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f_RRvftpRPuaKNylmC2G1J_ Grace, Grace, God’s Grace - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1aRj7l1t4f9Ps0QA2Mx21Pz-B6VNlvSw Resources: B.I.T.E. Model ⁠Website: https://bit.ly / B.I.T.E. Model ⁠Free PDF⁠: https://bit.ly/BITE-PDFBook: Toxic Faith - https://amzn.to/3LsRreN Book: The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse - https://amzn.to/3UUFKA Books: Pagan Christianity? Exploring the Roots of Our Church Practices:⁠ https://amzn.to/3UR5IEt Book: Free: From Legalism to Grace - https://amzn.to/4kkrYnA Responsible Faith - https://www.youtube.com/@ResponsibleFaith Spiritualabuse.org dividetheword.blog Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational and commentary purposes, offering biblical critique and theological analysis based on personal opinion and publicly available material, without alleging illegal activity or defaming individuals or organizations. Portions of copyrighted content may be used under Fair Use (17 U.S.C. § 107) for criticism and education, and rights holders are encouraged to contact us with any concerns. CHAPTERS: 0:00 When Pastoral Authority Goes Too Far – LIVE Special 7:27 Todd Nichols – “Only Two Men… Matter as Far as Hearing From God” 17:10 Chris Green Callback – Rolling in the Grass: “I Want It” 20:22 Todd Nichols – “Stay on the Wall” & Nehemiah 6 27:38 Nehemiah 6 – What the Text Actually Says 31:02 Todd Nichols – “Unprecedented Work” Means “Unprecedented Enemies” 40:47 Todd Nichols – “Only Two Men” Hear From God 45:49 Todd Nichols – “Shut Out Every Other Voice” 53:45 Todd Nichols – “We Don’t Owe Anybody an Explanation” 1:04:48 Sunday Night to Tuesday – The Authority “Cleanup” 1:11:20 Todd Nichols – “Preacher Blood” & Spiritual Authority 1:17:02 A Two-Class Church – Leaders Treated Like Royalty 1:23:49 Todd Nichols – “My Only Answer Is Yes, Sir” 1:31:57 Todd Nichols – Romans 13 Used for Pastoral Authority 1:35:31 Todd Nichols – “Ain’t No Such Thing as Church Hurt” 1:46:41 Mary Wilson – Submit to the Pastor & “Sic the Devil on You” 1:50:05 The Authority System Summed Up – Where Is Jesus? 2:01:16 Final Thoughts – Freedom in Christ & Grace Escape

When churches face leadership crises, are congregants taught how to respond with biblical accountability, or simply how to stay loyal to a man. In this episode, we examine recent events surrounding one of the most influential Oneness Pentecostal churches in America and ask what the Bible says about pastoral qualifications, accountability, and discernment. Whether you're processing questions in your own church or simply want to know what God's Word says, we hope this conversation points you back to Christ, not man. For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. - Galatians 1:10 ESV Last Week: The Tithe Trap | Who Gave Pastors a Claim on Your First 10%? – EP143 - https://youtu.be/cdexaCCLmwE

When churches face leadership crises, are congregants taught how to respond with biblical accountability, or simply how to stay loyal to a man. In this episode, we examine recent events surrounding one of the most influential Oneness Pentecostal churches in America and ask what the Bible says about pastoral qualifications, accountability, and discernment. Whether you're processing questions in your own church or simply want to know what God's Word says, we hope this conversation points you back to Christ, not man. For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. - Galatians 1:10 ESV Last Week: The Tithe Trap | Who Gave Pastors a Claim on Your First 10%? – EP143 - https://youtu.be/cdexaCCLmwE

Who gave the modern church (or the pastor!) a biblical claim on the first 10% of every Christian’s income, along with the authority to attach salvation, blessing, protection, or curses to whether it is paid? In this episode, we examine the unauthorized transfers used to build modern tithing doctrine, from turning pastors into Levites to turning the temple storehouse into a church bank account. We also respond to Oneness Pentecostal leaders who call non-tithers thieves, threaten spiritual consequences, and use fear, shame, and heaven itself to enforce payment. Most importantly, we remind believers that salvation is a gift, Christian giving is not a debt, and Jesus did not save us so we could spend the rest of our lives paying Him back. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us… - Galatians 3:13 ESV