Cults to Consciousness

They can't harm you, if they can't find you! Use code CULT at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/cult At just 18 years old, Donna Lamb arrived in New York City dreaming of becoming an actress—only to be recruited into s*x work on her second day in the city. After dr*gs, vi*olence, and a terrifying encounter that made her fear for her life, Donna escaped that world but soon found herself pulled into Aesthetic Realism, a high-control group that she says attempted to change her s*xuality, dictated relationships and even s*x, and demanded devotion to its founder, Eli Siegel. Now 77, Donna shares how she finally reclaimed her own voice after decades of surrendering her autonomy. Find and support Donna! Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/donnalamb330/ YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@DonnaLambSpeaks Substack: https://donnalamb.substack.com/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/donna.lamb.528 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-lamb-295188144/ Website: https://donnalamb.com/   Chapter Marks 00:00 Coming Up 00:01:48 Meet Donna Lamb 00:06:19 Donna's ChiIdhood & Dream of Becoming an Actress 00:11:36 Moving to New York at 18 00:13:11 A Stranger Approaches Her at the Bank 00:14:49 Her First Experience With S*x Work 00:18:09 Trying to Leave It Behind 00:19:01 Being Recruited Again 00:21:37 Meeting Her Pimp 00:25:16 Life as an Independent Call Girl 00:26:21 The 17-Year-Old Donna Decided to Save 00:29:20 Her Pimp Finds Out 00:30:08 "Where's Bonnie?" 00:32:46 The Moment Everything Broke 00:35:45 Drugs & Hitting Rock Bottom 00:36:08 Walking Away From S*x Work 00:38:03 How Aesthetic Realism Entered Her Life 00:49:22 Vulnerability Turns Into Devotion 00:50:29 The Cult Begins Taking Over Everything 00:55:36 "You Have to Become Straight" 00:58:02 Aesthetic Realism Takes Its Message National 00:59:30 Donna Is Asked to Help "Change" Lesbians 01:02:32 The Relentless Criticism & Control 01:03:10 Being Pushed Into Relationships With Men 01:06:23 How the Cult Controlled S*x 01:10:42 The Beginning of the End 01:17:42 Donna Starts Defying the Group 01:19:47 Escaping in 2001 01:30:19 Using Her Story to Help Others 01:31:33 Donna's "Linda, Listen" — It's Never Too Late Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClips Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/ Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness https://www.tiktok.com/@cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon https://twitter.com/cultstocon **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

Following up our enlightening interview with Mitch Cunico of @Cult_Audit about his time as a leader within the World Mission Society Church of God (WMSCOG), we are joined with him LIVE today to further dive into their recruiting process. Were they recruiting? What do they say? How do they approach college students? How can parents warn their kids? We’ll go behind the curtain into the “Letters to Mother” system and how personal information can create the appearance that “Mother” somehow knows what someone is thinking or struggling with. And what Mitch feels happens when a member begins questioning or leaves the church. Watch our initial interview with Mitch: https://youtu.be/7PyHcMow6zQ Find and support Mitch! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cult_Audit/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cult_audit/ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClips Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/ Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness https://www.tiktok.com/@cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon https://twitter.com/cultstocon **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

Dr. Christine Marie infiltrated the inner circle of polygamous cult leader Samuel Bateman, helping expose the horrific ab*se happening behind closed doors and ultimately contributing to his downfall. Now, just days after watching Bateman receive his final sentence in court, Christine joins us to reveal what it took to bring him down… and what it was like to finally see justice served. Find and Support Christine! Website: http://christinemarie.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr.christinemarie/ https://voicesfordignity.org/ Watch our initial interview with Dr. Christine Katas: https://youtu.be/7DFzzNJJEgU Our last 2 lives with Nomz and Makelle: https://youtube.com/live/0DKkpKPoz6Q https://youtube.com/live/Nd4mSIB6VsA?feature=share Watch our interview with Nomz: https://youtu.be/IXHdXX5JThY Watch our interview with Makelle : https://youtu.be/lw0QC0G5cuY Part Two with Makelle: https://youtu.be/Ap8G3sr9r4c?si=1sU_bPC-2qSGZWdz Watch our full interview with Jude Bateman, Sam's sister: https://youtu.be/o9z9YdSzL8A?si=6RtMHV3p1A7RrnT_ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClips Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/ Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness https://www.tiktok.com/@cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon https://twitter.com/cultstocon **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

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Polygamous sect leader Samuel Bateman has been sentenced to a total of 74 years in prison. Yesterday an Arizona state judge handed down an additional 24-year prison sentence to be served consecutively after his 50-year federal prison sentence. Today we are joined LIVE with Naomi "Nomz" Bistline (Sam Bateman’s former 13th wife) who was at the hearing and gave an impact statement, and his former 22nd wife, Makelle Bistline, as they debrief us on exactly what happened. Follow and support Nomz and Makelle! IG: @nomzia_b https://www.instagram.com/nomzia_b/ TT: @nomzia_b https://www.tiktok.com/@nomzia_b?lang=en FB: https://www.facebook.com/NomziBistline IG: https://www.instagram.com/16_makelle/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@16makelle Watch our latest live with Dr. Christine Marie: https://www.youtube.com/live/5vy6QgibhZY?si=P1f46hYSFxFPFZuG Watch our last live with Nomz and Makelle: https://youtube.com/live/Nd4mSIB6VsA?feature=share Watch our interview with Nomz: https://youtu.be/IXHdXX5JThY Watch our interview with Makelle : https://youtu.be/lw0QC0G5cuY Part Two with Makelle: https://youtu.be/Ap8G3sr9r4c?si=1sU_bPC-2qSGZWdz Our interview with Dr. Christine Katas: https://youtu.be/7DFzzNJJEgU Watch our full interview with Jude Bateman, Sam's sister: https://youtu.be/o9z9YdSzL8A?si=6RtMHV3p1A7RrnT_ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClips Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/ Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness https://www.tiktok.com/@cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon https://twitter.com/cultstocon **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

Former high-ranking World Mission Society Church of God member Mitch Cunico (of @Cult_Audit) reveals how a seemingly innocent Bible study pulled him into a South Korean high-control religious group that demanded relentless evangelizing, money, strict obedience, and eventually even control over his marriage. Mitch was matched with a Korean wife he barely knew, living at the church as pastoral staff, watching members’ private confessions allegedly be used to monitor them, and ultimately discovering information that shattered his belief in the organization. Find and support Mitch! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cult_Audit/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cult_audit/ Chapter Marks 00:00:00 — Intro: Inside the World Mission Society Church of God 00:02:34 — Who Is “God the Mother”? 00:10:34 — How Mitch Was Recruited / Getting involved with the cult 00:15:47 — Balancing Life in the Cult and Military 00:17:09 — Evangelizing Every Day & Sleep Deprivation 00:24:22 — The Salvation Goalposts Keep Moving 00:27:58 — Paying Tithing 00:31:40 — How the Church Monitored Members 00:39:10 — The Cult Decides Mitch Needs a Wife 00:47:14 — Married After Just Two Months 00:51:07 — Life as Pastoral Staff 00:57:20 — First moment waking up 00:58:00 — Control, Labor & Life Inside the Church 01:05:00 — Mitch Begins to Wake Up 01:09:10 — CW: Body Shaming, Impacts of South Korean cults 01:12:57 — Discovering Other Korean Cults 01:17:50 — Mitch Starts Questioning His Own Church 01:18:57 — They Fly Mitch to South Korea 01:24:04 — Mitch Realizes His Wife Is Spying on Him 01:24:39 — The Resignation Document 01:26:00 — “I Don’t Believe This Church” 01:30:24 — Becoming an Activist Against the Group 01:33:09 — His Marriage Falls Apart 01:35:19 — The Aftermath of Leaving 01:38:31 — Final thoughts 01:39:30 — Exposing High-Control Groups 01:41:12 — Linda, listen 01:43:01 — “Research Isn’t Sin” Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClips Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/ Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness https://www.tiktok.com/@cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon https://twitter.com/cultstocon **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

Explore my Hungryroot Digital Cookbook “Cult Classics” and get 40% off your first order plus a free item in every box for life at https://hungryroot.com/CULTFREE Amanda Rae returns for a disturbing deep dive into the alleged consequences of generations of incest within the polygamous Kingston Group, from miscarr*ages and birth defects to infertility and reproductive coercion. Amanda and Shelise examine how the group’s obsession with preserving its “pure” bloodline has impacted women and chiIdren—and why, despite mounting consequences, the practice continues Watch Shelise on Amanda's channel: https://youtu.be/QXEvRduQUZ4?is=LrRJuO4RK4ISCCSy Find and support Amanda! YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheAmandaRaeGrant TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@amanda.rae.grant IG: https://www.instagram.com/amandaraegrant/ Chapter Marks 00:00:00 Intro: The Horrifying Reality of Generations of Incest 00:02:18 Amanda Rae Returns to Expose the Kingston Group 00:03:17 Disturbing New Allegations Emerging From Inside The Order 00:04:35 Why the Kingston Group Practices Incest 00:08:03 The Leader Allegedly Found With a Deceased Infant 00:10:01 The Mystery of the “Baby Graveyard” 00:13:35 What Happens When an Incest Pregnancy Goes Wrong 00:16:01 Shelise Opens Up About Her Own Pregnancy Loss 00:20:06 Women Allegedly Denied Life-Saving Medical Care 00:23:04 A Disabled Woman Expected to Become a Wife & Mother 00:26:24 Mothers Expected to Return to Work Immediately After Birth 00:29:20 Generations of Incest & Growing Infertility 00:30:23 Secret Fertility Treatments Without Women’s Knowledge 00:32:40 Saving a Miscarr*age to “Prove” She Was Pregnant 00:34:23 What History Teaches Us About Royal Inbreeding 00:37:04 The Hidden Health Consequences of Inbreeding 00:44:01 Why Don’t Order Members “Look Inbred”? 00:51:21 What Amanda Wishes She’d Known About Genetics 00:52:29 Is Incest Ever Morally or Ethically Acceptable? 00:58:01 Being Told to Marry a Sibling You Barely Know 01:02:15 Linda, listen 01:04:20 How Viewers Can Help & Final Thoughts Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClips Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/ Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness https://www.tiktok.com/@cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon https://twitter.com/cultstocon **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**

When two best friends are coerced to becoming sister wives to a false prophet, how does their friendship evolve? Did it survive the pressures of a household with over 20 other wives? Have they maintained a friendship after one of them helped put the false prophet behind bars? Makelle and Nomz return today for a special LIVE stream to answer all! Follow and support Makelle and Nomz! IG: https://www.instagram.com/16_makelle/ TT: https://www.tiktok.com/@16makelle IG: @nomzia_b https://www.instagram.com/nomzia_b/ TT: @nomzia_b https://www.tiktok.com/@nomzia_b?lang=en FB: https://www.facebook.com/NomziBistline Watch our latest live with Dr. Christine Marie: https://www.youtube.com/live/5vy6QgibhZY?si=P1f46hYSFxFPFZuG Our lastest live with Nomz and Makelle: https://youtube.com/live/0DKkpKPoz6Q Watch our interview with Makelle (Sam's 22nd Wife): https://youtu.be/lw0QC0G5cuY Part Two with Makelle: https://youtu.be/Ap8G3sr9r4c?si=1sU_bPC-2qSGZWdz Watch our interview with Nomz: https://youtu.be/IXHdXX5JThY Our interview with Dr. Christine Katas: https://youtu.be/7DFzzNJJEgU Watch our full interview with Jude Bateman, Sam's sister: https://youtu.be/o9z9YdSzL8A?si=6RtMHV3p1A7RrnT_ Subscribe to our C2C "CLIPS" Channel! https://www.youtube.com/@CultstoConsciousnessClips Support C2C - Any donations are welcome and appreciated to support the making of this podcast. Find our FULL (uncensored) merch store here! https://cults-to-consciousness-shop.fourthwall.com/en-usd Patreon https://www.patreon.com/cultstoconsciousness Venmo @sheliseann Find us on Social media! Instagram @cultstoconsciousness https://www.instagram.com/cultstoconsciousness Host Instagram @sheliseann https://www.instagram.com/sheliseann/ Co Producer / Host @jonathan.rosales_ https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.rosales_ TikTok @cults.to.consciousness https://www.tiktok.com/@cults.to.consciousness Twitter @cultstocon https://twitter.com/cultstocon **Disclaimer: Thanks for joining us at Cults to Consciousness. This storytelling podcast is meant to be for entertainment purposes only and does not substitute for medical advice. We may discuss triggering topics and we ask that you make your personal mental health a priority. This podcast provides a platform for guests to share their personal experiences and opinions. The views expressed are solely those of the guest and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or producers. Any allegations discussed are unverified and represent personal accounts only. All individuals mentioned are presumed innocent unless proven otherwise. The podcast assumes no legal responsibility for statements made by guests.**