{"id":19106,"date":"2024-01-23T09:15:52","date_gmt":"2024-01-23T14:15:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pathway2truth.com\/wp\/?p=19106"},"modified":"2024-01-23T09:15:52","modified_gmt":"2024-01-23T14:15:52","slug":"isaiah-1319-22-did-isaiah-correctly-predict-the-desolation-of-babylon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pathway2truth.com\/wp\/isaiah-1319-22-did-isaiah-correctly-predict-the-desolation-of-babylon\/","title":{"rendered":"Isaiah 13:19-22 – Did Isaiah correctly predict the desolation of Babylon?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Problem:<\/strong> The Bible makes a number of predictions about the devastation of specific ancient cities, mentioning details about their destruction. This type of predictive prophecy demonstrates that the God of the Bible is in charge of secular nations and cities\u2014not just spiritual matters. In my opinion, while these predictions are not the most persuasive evidence for the inspiration of the Bible, they still help to support the cumulative case that the Bible is a uniquely inspired book.
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\nSolution:<\/strong> Destruction of Tyre (Ezek. 26:3-14)
\nTyre was an affluent sea port in the ancient world. It was heavily guarded and fortified, and yet, Ezekiel predicted that it would be destroyed. Ezekiel wrote:<\/p>\n

(Ezek. 26:3-14 NASB) \u201cBehold, I am against you, O Tyre, and I will bring up many nations against you, as the sea brings up its waves.4\u00a0 They will destroy the walls of Tyre and break down her towers; and I will scrape her debris from her and make her a bare rock.5\u00a0 She will be a place for the spreading of nets in the midst of the sea, for I have spoken,\u201d declares the Lord GOD, \u201cand she will become spoil for the nations.6\u00a0 Also her daughters who are on the mainland will be slain by the sword, and they will know that I am the LORD.\u201d7\u00a0 For thus says the Lord GOD, \u201cBehold, I will bring upon Tyre from the north Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon, king of kings, with horses, chariots, cavalry and a great army.8\u00a0 He will slay your daughters on the mainland with the sword; and he will make siege walls against you, cast up a ramp against you and raise up a large shield against you.9\u00a0 The blow of his battering rams he will direct against your walls, and with his axes he will break down your towers.10\u00a0 Because of the multitude of his horses, the dust raised by them will cover you; your walls will shake at the noise of cavalry and wagons and chariots when he enters your gates as men enter a city that is breached.11\u00a0 With the hoofs of his horses he will trample all your streets. He will slay your people with the sword; and your strong pillars will come down to the ground.12\u00a0 Also they will make a spoil of your riches and a prey of your merchandise, break down your walls and destroy your pleasant houses, and throw your stones and your timbers and your debris into the water.13\u00a0 So I will silence the sound of your songs, and the sound of your harps will be heard no more.14\u00a0 I will make you a bare rock; you will be a place for the spreading of nets. You will be built no more, for I the LORD have spoken,\u201d declares the Lord GOD.<\/p>\n

Ezekiel wrote this prophecy in 587 B.C. Regarding the dating of Ezekiel, Robert W. Manweiler writes:<\/p>\n

Ezekiel is probably the most carefully dated of all Old Testament books\u2026 we here note that the majority of biblical scholars, even of those who reject the inspiration and unity of the Bible, believe most of the book was written in the sixth century BC by the prophet Ezekiel. The prophecy against Tyre in chapter 26 can be dated with great probability at least two centuries before its fulfillment.[1]
\nOT scholar Gleason Archer also confirms that most critics of the Bible date this book similarly.[2] For instance, even arch-skeptic Richard Carrier assumes a sixth century date for this prophecy.[3] Thus the date of this prophecy is fairly fixed to the sixth century\u2014even by the critics.<\/p>\n

A few years after Ezekiel made this prophecy, Nebuchadnezzar attacked Old Tyre.[4] His siege lasted for thirteen years, but he was unsuccessful in plundering the city (585-573 B.C.).[5] He eventually broke through Old Tyre\u2019s defenses, but they retreated to New Tyre (or \u201cInsular Tyre\u201d) a half mile off the coast. Historian Lewis V. Cummings comments, \u201cFrom the dawn of time\u2026 the city, impregnable behind its high walls, and located upon a rocky island two miles in circuit and half a mile offshore, had successfully repelled all attempts at invasion.\u201d[6] After several failed invasions, the city of Tyre felt invincible.<\/p>\n

Of course, critics of the Bible see nothing supernatural about this portion of the fulfillment, because it was written around the same time as Nebuchadnezzar. The truly supernatural element of this prophecy comes two hundred years later, when Alexander the Great came through and conquered New Tyre (332 B.C.). Remember Ezekiel predicted that Tyre would be destroyed by \u201cmany nations\u201d (Ezek. 26:5)\u2014not just Nebuchadnezzar, and he also predicted that Nebuchadnezzar wouldn\u2019t plunder the city (Ezek. 29:18-20).<\/p>\n

Alexander didn\u2019t want to continue conquering (onto Egypt) without securing Tyre. The Persians could\u2019ve used it as a base to fight behind him after he left, thus breaking communications with his army. Historian Philip Freeman writes, \u201cIf he left Tyre unconquered, it would continue to serve as a base for the Persian navy and, even worse, as a glaring emblem of his failure.\u201d[7] Since New Tyre was a half mile off of the coast, he ordered his men (and neighboring nations) to build a causeway to the city, which was 200 feet in width (thus fulfilling verse 12 regarding the \u201cmany nations\u201d involved).[8] Freeman writes, \u201cAlexander was present every day, conferring with the engineers, encouraging his men, and carrying stone after stone into the sea himself.\u201d[9] To build the causeway, Alexander had his men tear down the buildings of Tyre, thereby fulfilling Ezekiel\u2019s prediction that they would throw the \u201cstones and timbers and even [their] dust into the sea\u201d (v.12; c.f. Zech. 9:3-4; Isa. 23:2-3, 8, 18).[10]<\/p>\n

Of course, the pagan Alexander had no motive in fulfilling Bible prophecy.<\/p>\n

OBJECTION #1: Ezekiel predicted that Nebuchadnezzar would fulfill this prediction\u2014not Alexander the GreatCLAIM: Critics of this prophecy argue that in verses 7-11, Ezekiel predicted that \u201che\u201d (Nebuchadnezzar) would overcome Tyre\u2014not Alexander the Great. The third person plural (\u201cthey\u201d) in verse 12 does not refer to later conquerors; it refers to the \u201cchariots\u201d (v.10) and \u201chorses\u201d (v.11).<\/p>\n

RESPONSE: While Ezekiel did predict that Nebuchadnezzar would initially attack the city, he didn\u2019t claim that he would be the one to completely decimate the city. In fact, Ezekiel began the prediction stating that \u201cmany nations\u201d would take Tyre (Ezek. 26:3, 5).[11] Indeed, later in his book, Ezekiel specifically states that Nebuchadnezzar would not take spoil from the city: \u201cNebuchadnezzar king of Babylon made his army labor hard against Tyre; every head was made bald and every shoulder was rubbed bare. But he and his army had no wages from Tyre for the labor that he had performed against it\u201d (Ezek. 29:18). Skeptic Richard Carrier claims that here Ezekiel had to \u201cretract his prediction\u201d in this verse because it failed.[12] But why does Carrier assume this? If this was really the case, why wouldn\u2019t Ezekiel simply edit chapter 26 to fit with what happened? It was his book after all! Instead, it is more reasonable to believe that 29:18 is a necessary caveat for his prediction made in chapter 26, which said from the beginning that \u201cmany nations\u201d would conquer Tyre.<\/p>\n

OBJECTION #2: Modern Tyre has been rebuilt
\nCLAIM: Critics of this prophecy argue that modern Tyre has been rebuilt\u2014despite God\u2019s prediction that \u201c[Tyre] will be built no more\u201d (v.14). For instance, National Geographic has reported on modern Tyre recently.<\/p>\n

RESPONSE: Since Old Tyre was destroyed and thrown into the sea, it has never been rebuilt. No one has pulled the stones and bricks from under the silt. In AD 1170, an ancient traveler named Benjamin of Tudela commented that he could see the old city buried beneath the shallow sea.[13] This would make sense of Ezekiel\u2019s description that \u201cwhen I bring up the deep over you and the great waters cover you\u201d (Ezekiel 26:19). Then he writes, \u201cI will make you dwell in the lower parts of the earth, like the ancient waste places, with those who go down to the pit, so that you will not be inhabited\u201d (Ezek. 26:20). Therefore, because this ancient city was submerged in the sea, it has never been rebuilt. While the current dwellers of Tyre are on the same territory, they really have little to do with the ancient city other than being in the same location. Robert Newman adds, \u201cRemembering that Ezekiel spoke against a Tyre that was a world-trade center and naval empire, the fact that the site now has museums and resorts in addition to its fishing village hardly constitutes regaining her former title \u2018Queen of the Seas.\u2019\u201d[14]<\/p>\n

OBJECTION #3: Robert Newman\u2019s history about Nebuchadnezzar was wrong
\nCLAIM: In his article criticizing Robert Newman\u2019s argument from predictive prophecy (\u201cNewman on Prophecy as Miracle\u201d 1999, 2005), skeptic Richard Carrier writes,<\/p>\n

What is Newman thinking? He obviously has never picked up a history book. He claims that Nebuchadnezzar \u201ctook\u201d the city in 573 B.C., but we have no evidence of that. As far as we know, the city submitted to Babylonian rule without being sacked. Indeed, since it was a trade powerhouse with two outstanding naval ports, a conqueror would be a fool to destroy it (even Alexander\u2019s successors rebuilt it for that purpose). So Nebuchadnezzar surely got a sweet deal\u2026 Newman is clearly the worst historian I\u2019ve ever seen. Never mind that he has absolutely no basis for this claim\u2013it is already extraordinarily absurd!
\nSince Robert Newman has given the most scholarly presentation of this prophecy to date,[15] Carrier attacks his presentation of this prediction to discredit the prophecy as a whole.<\/p>\n

RESPONSE: This seems to be a common strategy for Carrier when he doesn\u2019t know how else to reply: name calling and pulling rank. Is it possible to discuss these issues without having to call Newman \u201cthe worst historian I\u2019ve ever seen,\u201d or to claim that Newman \u201cobviously has never picked up a history book\u201d? Robert Newman has a PhD for God\u2019s sakes! I think he has read a book or two! Since Carrier is a PhD in ancient history, he must feel comfortable pulling rank on this issue.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s interesting that Carrier doesn\u2019t cite any sources when he writes that Nebuchadnezzar \u201cgot a sweet deal.\u201d How does Carrier know this without any sources? Perhaps he knows of some contrary sources, but he does not cite any. At least Newman has a source when he makes his assertion about Nebuchadnezzar: the Bible. This argument from Carrier really shows the prejudicial approach that many critical scholars have when approaching the Bible: they don\u2019t treat it as they would any other ancient historical source.<\/p>\n

Finally, this remark from Carrier is really just a clever distraction from the overall fulfillment of this prediction in Alexander the Great. Carrier used this tactic in his critique of the regathering of Israel. In my critique of Carrier there, I compared his bickering to a football coach asking the referees to review a call on a fourth down play, when their team is down by 60 points in the fourth quarter! He focuses on the minutia, rather than the overall prediction. Whether or not Nebuchadnezzar took the city is really inconsequential to the overall prediction with Alexander. Carrier doesn\u2019t have a strong reply here or in his book Sense and Goodness Without God.[16] Therefore, he focuses on inconsequential details of Newman\u2019s overall argument.<\/p>\n

The Permanent Destruction of Babylon (Is. 13:19-20; Jer. 51:24-26)
\nBoth Isaiah and Jeremiah predicted that Babylon would be permanently destroyed:<\/p>\n

(Is. 13:19-20 NASB) And\u00a0Babylon, the\u00a0beauty of kingdoms, the glory of the Chaldeans\u2019 pride,\u00a0will be as when God\u00a0overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.\u00a020\u00a0It will\u00a0never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation;\u00a0nor will the\u00a0Arab pitch\u00a0his\u00a0tent there,\u00a0nor will shepherds make\u00a0their flocks\u00a0lie down there.<\/p>\n

(Jer. 51:24, 26 NASB) \u201cBut I will repay Babylon and all the inhabitants of Chaldea for\u00a0all their evil that they have done in Zion before your eyes,\u201d declares the LORD\u2026 \u201cThey will not take from you\u00a0even\u00a0a stone for a corner\u00a0nor a stone for foundations,\u00a0but you will be\u00a0desolate forever,\u201d declares the LORD.<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s consider each prediction made here, one by one:<\/p>\n

PREDICTION #1: Babylon will be permanently abandoned. When these predictions were made, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon were one of the Seven Wonders of the World, and the city itself was the center of the known world. Today, however, the modern city of Babylon has been completely abandoned. An Iraq tour guide web site notes, \u201cToday, Babylon lies completely in ruins. A large and splendidly carved stone lion is all that remains of its former glories.\u201d[17]<\/p>\n

PREDICTION #2: Stones will not be plundered from the city. Newman writes, \u201cInterestingly, as Jeremiah predicted, natives who work the site for building materials only take bricks; they burn the stones they find for lime.\u201d[18]<\/p>\n

PREDICTION #3: People will not even take their animals there to graze. Newman writes, \u201cThe Euphrates River, which used to flow through the heart of the city, has eroded away the ruins that may have been on its western bank. Moreover, the river has changed its main course since ancient times, leaving a swampy area in its place.\u201d[19] Elsewhere, he writes, \u201cEven today, Arabs are afraid to live at the site of Babylon, and its soil is too poor to provide grass for grazing.\u201d[20]<\/p>\n

Destruction of Edom (Jer. 49:16-17)
\nJeremiah predicted that Edom would be a place of permanent destruction. It would not be rebuilt. This was an incredible prediction at the time, because Edom was a fortress carved out of rock. And yet, Jeremiah predicted that it would be permanently destroyed.<\/p>\n

(Jer. 49:16-17 NASB; c.f. Ezek. 25:12-14; Isa. 34:10:15) \u201cAs for the terror of you, the arrogance of your heart has deceived you, O you who live in the clefts of the rock, who occupy the height of the hill. Though you make your nest as high as an eagle\u2019s, I will bring you down from there,\u201d declares the LORD. 17 \u201cEdom will become an object of horror; everyone who passes by it will be horrified and will hiss at all its wounds.\u201d<\/p>\n

At the time this was predicted, Edom was an impenetrable fortress. But in the seventh century AD, Edom was conquered by Muslim warriors (AD 636). Today, it is a place for tourists. It has never been rebuilt.[21]<\/p>\n

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[1] Newman, Robert C. The Evidence of Prophecy: Fulfilled Prediction as a Testimony to the Truth of Christianity. Hatfield, PA: Interdisciplinary Biblical Research Institute, 1988. 21.
\n[2] After commenting on the biblical criticism of C.C. Torrey regarding a late dating of Ezekiel, Gleason Archer writes, \u201cFew scholars, however, have followed him in this skepticism, and in more recent years the cumulative data of Palestinian archaeology\u2026 point to a complete cessation of Israelite occupation in Palestine during the greater part of the sixth century.\u201d Archer, G., Jr. (1994). A survey of Old Testament introduction (3rd. ed.) (412). Chicago: Moody Press.
\n[3] Carrier, Richard. Sense and Goodness Without God: A Defense of Metaphysical Naturalism. Bloomington, IN: Authorhouse, 2005. 249.
\n[4] According to the 2010 World Book Encylopedia, \u201cIn 573 B.C., the Babylonians crushed a Tyrian revolt after laying siege to the city for 13 years. Badly weakened, Tyre fell to the Persians in 538 B.C.\u201d The World Book Encyclopedia. Vol. 19. Chicago, IL: World Book, 2010. 541-542.
\n[5] Josephus Against Apion 1:21.
\n[6] Cummings, Lewis Vance.\u00a0Alexander the Great. New York: Grove, 1968. 175.
\n[7] Freeman, Philip.\u00a0Alexander the Great. New York: Simon & Schuster, 2011. 133.
\n[8] Historian Lewis V. Cummings writes, \u201cDiodorus claims to know that is was two hundred feet wide when it was finished.\u201d Cummings, Lewis Vance.\u00a0Alexander the Great. New York: Grove, 1968. 176.
\n[9] Freeman, Philip.\u00a0Alexander the Great. New York: Simon & Schuster, 2011. 131.
\n[10] Historian Philip Freeman writes, \u201cThe siege of Tyre began with the demolition of older parts of the town on the mainland for construction materials for a causeway to the island.\u201d Freeman, Philip.\u00a0Alexander the Great. New York: Simon & Schuster, 2011. 131.
\n[11] Biblical commentators note a chiastic structure in Ezekiel\u2019s prophecy, which is popular in biblical writing. That is, it begins with \u201cmany nations\u201d (vv.3-5) and it ends with the pronoun \u201cthey\u201d to emphasize the work of the nations\u2014not just an individual (vv.12-14).
\n[12] Richard Carrier \u201cNewman on Prophecy as Miracle\u201d (1999, 2005). http:\/\/www.infidels.org\/library\/modern\/richard_carrier\/indef\/4d.html.
\n[13] See http:\/\/www.apologeticspress.org\/apcontent.aspx?category=13&article=1790
\n[14] Newman, Robert. \u201cPublic Theology and Prophecy Data: Factual Evidence that Counts for the Biblical Worldview.\u201d JETS 46\/1 (March 2003) 96.
\n[15] See his chapter \u201cFulfilled Prophecy as Miracle\u201d in Geivett, R. Douglas., and Gary R. Habermas. In Defense of Miracles: a Comprehensive Case for God\u2019s Action in History. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity, 1997. Or more recently Newman, Robert. \u201cPublic Theology and Prophecy Data: Factual Evidence that Counts for the Biblical Worldview.\u201d JETS 46\/1 (March 2003).
\n[16] Carrier, Richard. Sense and Goodness Without God: A Defense of Metaphysical Naturalism. Bloomington, IN: Authorhouse, 2005. 247-251.
\n[17] http:\/\/middleeastarab.com\/iq\/cities-iraq-babylon.html.
\n[18] Newman, Robert. \u201cPublic Theology and Prophecy Data: Factual Evidence that Counts for the Biblical Worldview.\u201d JETS 46\/1 (March 2003). 94.
\n[19] Newman, Robert. \u201cPublic Theology and Prophecy Data: Factual Evidence that Counts for the Biblical Worldview.\u201d JETS 46\/1 (March 2003). 94.
\n[20] Robert C. Newman \u201cFulfilled Prophecy as Miracle.\u201d Geivett, R. Douglas., and Gary R. Habermas. In Defense of Miracles: a Comprehensive Case for God\u2019s Action in History. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity, 1997. 220.
\n[21] Geisler, Norman L. Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics. Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 1999. 613.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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